anyway if you want this argument at book length you can read my book about it, available for free here

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later, after they've taken you on infinite marches to nowhere, defanged your slogans, funneled you into elections, spread conspiracy theories about the "real" rioters, and otherwise driven original rebels out of the street, then they will spend years saying you went too far and you were the problem

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rioting and looting let other proles know you're serious, that you're actually about fighting for something real. Yes, middle class ppl and non-profit activists will be very upset and will very loudly scold you for ruining the movement, which is to say, the movement they can control and profit from

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The only reason folks are talking about the French uprisings, ongoing for over a month, is because they escalated to rioting. The idea that that rioting and property destruction are bad for movement perception is just false, even if your goal is something as impoverished as media attention

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Reminder: during the most riotous parts of the George Floyd Uprising the movement was at its most popular, with the destroying of the 3rd precinct polling much higher than either presidential candidate, and it was only after months and years of revision that ppl talk like they werent

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