Which muscle, exactly, do you imagine people are training here?

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it's delicious. i love chart. i would like to throw chart dinner parties

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This discussion is slowly eroding my faith in humanity. It's just one long stream of people proudly announcing "oh no, you see, my beliefs are the *default* and you have to disprove them. Insufficient proof means I'm right!" People are standing in line to make playground level arguments.

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I mean, we also can't say for sure if pigs are conscious, and that lack of certainty has a lot of relevance to questions about the moral status of pigs. I really don't understand where people's confidence one way or the other comes from. This is called The Hard Problem for a reason!

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