From what I understand on the healthcare, they maintain an extremely high level of hospital capacity, but have meagre community care options with high levels of institutionalisation. So aspects are interesting, but a lot of outcomes/policies are real bad.

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but let’s not have it both ways ourselves — failed conservative utopia along a social axis (tho improving on immigration) but respectable lefty success along wealth equality and public goods.

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Yeah, its still fundamentally a first world social democracy. My point was many Western conservatives imagine they can have their cake and eat it.

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Because they're scared. Why wouldn't they be?

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i'd like to give the crusaders a big round of applause for destroying byzantium

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