i didn't even know about the hold—the 30% cut was egregious enough which is why (exclusively as a patron), it pisses me off that patreon consistently tries to push me to the app when i'm making changes to membership tiers or something

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Please correct me if I have given any incorrect/incomplete information but this is how it's going to play out from my understanding.

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(*Also Patreon actually WANTS to do this change and has wanted everyone on this model for years and is in part using Apple as a scapegoat and that's why they won't push back. But this thread is already long.)

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The only thing that backtracked them last time was the lawsuit from Epic Games against Apple; Patreon won't push back on their own and once the change is pushed they certainly will never roll back. I don't see things changing in two weeks.

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But no matter how much I remind folks, someone won't have seen any of this and will inevitably use the app to pledge after this change. They will pay more for it, and then I will be watching that payment sit in my account for 3 months. Every monthly charge is held too, not just the first one.

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