DS9's main theme is basically "let's take all those ideals and see how they fare under tremendous external pressure", and its answer is that sometimes they stand and sometimes they break but the most important thing is to never stop believing in them.

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The best part of that scene are the character reactions - Spock's glance and then Kirk's barely concealed horror at what he's just said, the moment where he realizes the unacceptable logical conclusions of his emotional impulse, where his better self begins to win out.

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it’s completely believable to me that Kirk would cling to his internalized hatred for his Cold War adversary on the cusp of his retirement and at the verge of an entirely new era in galactic politics in a way that could easily be used against him. I think the movie should have played that angle up.

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Undiscovered Country is so fucking good it makes me angry

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this is why I like even the later series of Discovery; oh no the worst thing happened, the federation is down to one dude in an office, let's go HELP people and mutual aid and science will rebuild it

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