exactly. a lot of pathologically incurious people assuming the default is pure vibe coding slop. what would even be the point?

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I have a very simple and obvious vision: video call with the team, all talking in the same agent session, all with access to the same terminals, same dev server. maybe you have your own thing going on the side to try things without hijacking the shared one. how are the tools not there yet??!?!?

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as someone who uses llms, i'm totally fine, even happy, about lobste.rs being an anti-llm space. if you want pro-llm stuff you can look anywhere else on the internet. if we want a moderate sort-of-llm community we can create one. niche communities with hardcore value systems are good.

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A lot of people seem confused because AI both lowers the floor AND raises the ceiling. They se slop and assume thats all that's possible. But special is possible but takes effort! Don't listen to people who cannot imagine using a powerful tool to do anything but put minimal effort in.

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huh yea, llms really are like a low skill floor high skill ceiling element in a video game. incredibly easy to just get going and thus be annoyed by them, but also so much depth to sink your teeth into and do amazing things well with

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