Judge Reyes: someone at DOI must have thought about what this is going to cost? Woodward: that's deliberative (privileged) your Honor. JR: what, no?

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Judge Reyes: what's the budget for the entire golf course reno project? DOJ's Woodward: I'm not aware of any budget. JR: they're is no budget for a public works project? W: I don't know.

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We're back. Judge Reyes is making a correction to one of the transcript quotes she read back.

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There is a lot going on in this hearing, but this was the most significant moment . . . until Woodward walked it back. Woodward's comment about the trees was in a statement about "multiple facets" to the plan to close the course, including the funding, the seawall, trees.

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Additionally, it would not surprise me if they cut off the public line when acting NPS director Jessica Bowron is sworn in to testify. They do not livestream testimony. So just be aware that is coming up and might happen.

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